It seams to me that IPTV is in it's infancy and basically doesn't do what people want it to do yet. When HbbTV gets released next year will you be able to up grade this TV or will you have to buy the latest version of your TVs? I will not be buying any TV until it has all the functions that I thought IPTV would have until I started looking into them.
I would largely agree that its still in its infancy, one major challenge is getting broadcasters to fundamentally change their business in so far as there will now never be un-connected TV's so understandably they are a little anxious about making sure that they don't cause problems for themselves in the longer terms by launching something rushed that has future implications.
The issue in the UK is that no broadcasters are supporting HbbTV as far as i'm aware - indeed I think that all the 2011 UK BRAVIA's are HbbTV compatible, but there is no broadcaster support for this platform, UK broadcasters unfortunately choosing to go down the Youview path which as far as Sony are concerned is a non-starter. I think Germany have live services using HbbTv and possibly the French also.
However remember that many services are actually backwardly compatible so you needn't actually wait for 2012 to buy a TV as services we launch next year ( and we have one lined up which could be truly incredibly if the pull it off!) will be backwardly compatible with 2011 devices as well.
Very, very, very frustrated by this, as I love watching BBC iPlayer, 4OD and ITV Player via my Playstation 3 (PS3) and when it came to purchasing a new television for our Kitchen I went for an internet TV (Sony Bravia because it's the best) and I naturally assumed that all 3 services would be available.
I understand that challenges that are outlined by Catmambo (I work in the industy too), however, I'm staggered that a company of Sony's power and influence could not make it happen.
To quote Jean Luc Picards "Make it so Sony".
I want to add my voice to this thread, I just bought the TV from JohnLewis, the Sony guy
in the shop was a bit sketchy on what would happen about the TV players that weren't yet available
but as it is Sony, I felt reasonalby comfortable thinking that the mighty Sony would "make it happen" at some point.
Now I'm not so sure.
I wonder why BBC iplayer can be there but ITV not ? Seems ridiculous.
I just thought I'd add my pennies-worth. Love the TV, love iPlayer, but sooo frustrated at teh lack of ITV, Ch4 catch-up
BBC plans sounds very exciting. You said in early September you were catch up with the other broadcasters in the next week or so.
I was wondering if you had any updates to share? I'm particularly interested in accessing 4OD, and also a better YouTube experience.
Thought I would just add my 2p. Got a Bravia KDL-40EX503 last week (as a replacement for the KDL-40W4500 which was displaying the dreaded "patchwork quilt" effect), just received the wifi dongle and am now all connected. Very impressed with Picasa and iPlayer but can't get the complete catch-up experience until ITV Player and 4OD come on board. Are there any updates on this happening?
I have a KDL-60EX703 is this set old tech? As the iplayer is really poor quality. Set cost over £2000 less that ten months ago? Just bought a KDL-40CX523 for the bedroom is this one old tech also? Really worried about this as this will now be my third Sony fail. 1st being my rear projector 55" that had so much yellow picture staining it had to go.
Many thanks in anticipation
P.S. Love my PS3 and Alpha camera.
Thanks for the note - just to separate out the issues. The RPJ TV seems to actually have been faulty whereas the other two devices are working perfectly. iPlayer is delivered in two different ways on the 2010 EX703 and 2011 CX523 which is why you have an HD option on the 2011 device and a High Quality option on the 2010 device. Whilst the menus and way you navigate them is slightly different, the actual picture quality of the shows you are watching should be near identical for SD.
Hope this helps clarify things
Where the hell are ITV Player and 4OD?
We pay premium prices for a brand which is meant to be associated with support, dependency, reliability and premium quality service.
I have a 2010 model TV and there is no excuse for not getting these things implemented.
I could have paid half the price for a TV and got the same level of support. Sony have nose-dived into the gutter.
Mate, your post is a mish mash of disconnected points. Not sure you have really thought this through...
Can you point me to another TV manufacturer that already has these services, let alone pay half the price for a similar lineup of services??? No exactly.
Why wouldn't Sony want these services on there? It would help sell more TV's no? So the broadcasters are equally if not more to blame as they aren't on any connected TV....
Hi, no its a fair point. Freesat at the moment is a bit of a funny beast, its not getting as much support from manufacturers as it did previously and doesn't really offer any major benefits over Freeview HD now digital switchover is almost complete.
We haven't made a Freesat TV for a couple of years now and I'd be surprised if we see many other manufacturers offering them as it must be incredibly costly to support such a low volume UK only product, and mindful of current margins, it may be dropped. Just my thoughts...