I hope that I am right in thinking that if Sony updated the ex503 series with a browser then surely all media websites would be available. If this is not the case, what about providing the customer with a means of inputting a URL address? If it is now released for PS3 then surely Bravia TV's cannot be far behind. Or am I simplying this too much?
2011 TVs that come with a browser application still don't support embedded video. To quote from their website:
Visit your favourite websites and search the Internet using a simple web browser (display of embedded video not supported)
Why? Well if Sony allow that to happen they would cease to control what and how you watch media content on a Sony television. This doesn't make commercial sense as it would allow users to go outside of the current walled garden and would potentially leak revenue generation to other service providers. The platform is built so Sony can maximise the revenue stream it generates from services such as Qriocity and its partnship with LoveFilm etc.
Why would they want to build a platform that allowed you to spend your money with another company? From a business perspective that just doesn't make sense.
Maybe in the future their will be a game changing event, but I can't see that happening for a long time - if ever!
You are quite right, why spend out on a Sony Bravia internet tv if the media is going to be controlled and restricted by Sony? Instead buy a media streaming box that you can input your own video sites and not be held back by any manufacturer. I do feel that the sales pitch that some manufacturers are putting out are misleading, by stating that "loads of video sites available". But not necessarily the sites that you want.
Bear in mind even when we offer an open TV like Google TV in the US, the networks block the content
So seemingly it has to be a controlled eco-system if you want to have content to watch....
I understand the broadcasters, but if they include the ads (that cannot be skipped) surely that is enough. I noticed that when using your PS3, ITV player has an input of postcode which I am sure can be ratified. Then broadcaster territories can be confirmed. Another way is to create free accounts with password protection.
All we can hope for is for the agreement ASAP that allowed Sony PS3 to install the interface to provide ITV Player etc.
I was given a demo of Samsung 'Smart TV' in my local department store today. The Smart TV has a browser and has no problem navigating to 4OD, ITV.com, etc. The salesman explained to me that Samsung have done a very good job with their broswer and that it has full support for Flash, meaning it can play all the on demand services. He then went on to say that the Sony rep had been in recently to tell him about the browser coming on new Sony TVs, but that they won't have Flash support. Unless I'm very much mistaken, that means that even the new generation of Sony TVs with browser functionality still won't play 4OD and ITV.com ???
Lots of ways of delivering these kind of services, e.g. There are about 20+ flavours of BBC iPlayer although the 3 main versions are flash, h.264 and mheg as far as I'm aware.
Let's cut out the smoke and mirrors, I've spoken to 4OD and it's clear that they have no plans to launch 40D via the Bravia range. My Sony's going back to the store as I was sold it on the basis that there were plans to introduce the service in the future which is clearly not the case.
Been pleased with our 37EX403 and have now bought a 46EX503, some might say a bit foolishly because of this issue over 4od and itv player. It's hanging on the wall of our familty room (wireless dongle arrived yesterday and works fine). Now we're just hanging on for 4od & itv and hoping that we don't end up looking a pair of prats...
I have to say,don't hold your breath. I can't see that Sony will put much R&D into last
Rest assured, bringing these two services to BRAVIA remains one of my priorities, but its not entirely in our control as there are a number of considerations we are having to work with... We continue to meet and engage with both broadcasters though.
What I don't understand is another part of your own company has already sorted out the legalities by integrating ITV Player and 4OD into the PS3. So if it isn't the legalities what is it, I can't believe it is the technicalities. You imply it is some kind of copyright or territorial type of obstacle, if this is true then we may never see these facilties on our tv's.
Hi. This is my first post. We have just bought a KDL37EX723 Bravia along with a Sony Blue Ray Disc player BDP S770.
We are using the modem built into the blu ray to connect to our ISP wireless router. Having had a quick look through this thread my fears are confirmed!
BBCiPlayer has just vanished from the Home page. And I was under the impression that I would be able to add certain websites. Please can someone tell me how to get BBC iplayer back?
Overall I am VERY dissapointed with my purchase. There are many pay per view channels available, which I will not be using. Yet hardly any free content, which I could view via my PC.
Many programmes I can view on YouTube, on my PC, which are linked directly to their parent channel, like 4OD, or SLV are not available. I can watch 50 minute episodes of programmes on my PC.
I can watch 50 minute episodes using Microsofts Silverlight player via my PC etc etc.
Ive paid a lot of money for this Bravia Set up, and I can basically only watch short Youtube clips.........? And Five on Demand?
I would never have bought this, If the Sales Rep in the Store had informed me of the disabling limitations of this TV.
Im thinking of demanding my money back.
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Hi Daniel - Welcome to the forum. I think its explained ealier in the thread but basically rights for TV shows are determined on a device by device basis, so Youtube don't have the rights to show all premium content on the TV in this case.
This is the same for all manufacturers official Youtube applications, indeed C4 and ITV to date have not launched a dedicated service on any TV. I think we offer the best range of dedicated video services compared to other manufacturers and there are only 3 SVOD/TVOD paid services (Lovefilm, Qriocity and Berlin Philharmonic) compared to probably 15-20 'free' services, so its absolutely weighted on the side of free, with more free services to come.
Keepsweeping - Sorry I can't go into the details I'm afraid, but like any discussion, its always a 2 way street.